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Fans Turn on Mary Kay Cabot Over Her Catherine Hickman Sweatshirt Take

The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima··14 September 2026·14 min

About this episode

Ken and Anthony react to the backlash Mary Kay Cabot took online after defending Catherine Hickman's wardrobe choice on the show, and dig into whether there's a real double standard at play for women trying to break into NFL front offices versus guys like Freddie Kitchens or Bill Belichick. They trace the sweatshirt discourse back to old Browns fashion controversies, debate whether execs actually get free team gear, and land on a theory for how Hickman should handle her next press conference if she wants to shut the critics up.