Podcast Episode
How to Keep Going When You See No Results (Noah's Secret) | The FORGE I - Week 5 | S7 E5

About this episode
Bo and Cartwright walk through the arc from Genesis 5 to 9, focusing on why the Noah story matters more than the genealogies and side questions around the Nephilim. The conversation centers on what it means to trust God when the details are incomplete, the work is slow, and obedience looks foolish from the outside.They also highlight a repeated biblical pattern: judgment, mercy, and a way out. Noah becomes the key example of someone who walked with God, kept showing up for decades, and acted on what he knew even without seeing the outcome. Genesis 5 to 9: Noah, faith in the waiting, and trusting God through the unknown. menareforged.com/theforgeKey topicsIn this episode, Bo and Cartwright skip Genesis 5’s genealogy to get to the bigger narrative move from Seth to Noah.They discuss the Nephilim in Genesis 6:4 and outline three major interpretations: fallen angelic beings and human womenthe godly line of Seth intermarrying with the line of Cainancient kings or tyrants claiming divine status(Jump to 8:05) They spend time on Genesis 6:5 to 8, where God sees human wickedness, grieves over it, and yet Noah finds favor.A major theme is that God is not passive in chaos. He engages, asks questions, and invites response rather than forcing obedience.The Noah story is framed as a picture of faith in the waiting: building for years without visible proofobeying without knowing when rain would comecontinuing forward even when it looked irrationalCartwright emphasizes that most faith is built in the waiting, not the instant the call is given.They note how God gives enough information to obey, but not so much that the relationship is removed.The conversation compares Noah’s perseverance to other biblical moments like Cain, the Exodus, and John the Baptist’s doubts in Matthew 11.They also point out the chiasm in Genesis 6 to 9, with the center of the story highlighting God remembering Noah.The episode closes with reflection questions about obedience no one applauds and what favor people may already have that they are still trying to earn.Timestamps(00:00) Starting the episode and skipping Genesis 5
(00:51) Methuselah’s age and the strange reality of the early genealogies
(02:07) Genesis 5 as the line from Seth to Noah
(03:20) The Nephilim and the three major interpretations
(06:36) Why the Nephilim discussion can become a distraction
(08:05) Human wickedness, God’s grief, and Noah finding favor
(11:55) God in the middle of chaos, not waiting on it
(12:46) Accepted, lifted up, and the fruit of choosing right or wrong
(14:36) Noah walked with God, and favor came before the work
(15:17) Faith built in the waiting, not in visible results
(16:54) The ark’s size and the likely century-long build
(18:57) Faith that looks crazy from the outside
(20:09) Personal parallels about patience, dating, and timing
(22:21) A boat cannot be steered unless it is moving
(23:13) God remembered Noah and what that phrase means
(25:10) God is the subject of the story, not human effort
(26:24) What it must have been like to build for decades
(27:07) God always offers a way out in Scripture
(28:50) John the Baptist’s doubts in Matthew 11
(29:41) Circumstances, intellect, and morals are not ultimate
(30:11) The sheer repetition and repair work Noah likely faced
(32:08) Walking with God as relationship, not ritual
(33:24) Staying current with God’s direction and seasonal calling
(34:41) The desire for specific measurements in life
(35:49) God gives enough information to keep us dependent
(37:47) Faith means not having the answer manual
(38:58) The chiasm in Genesis 6 to 9 and the center point of remembrance
(40:59) Questions about unnoticed obedience and hidden faithfulness
(43:43) What are you still trying to earn that God has already given?Notable quotes“Most faith is built in the waiting.”“You don’t have to see the whole story to trust the one writing it.”“He already had favor with God and then he didn’t build the ark to earn favor with God.”Action itemsIdentify one act of obedience you are doing that nobody will applaud.Ask where you are tempted to quit because you cannot see results yet.Consider what favor or calling you may already have that you are still trying to earn.Reflect on whether you are seeking a relationship with God or just the instruction manual.Transform your health routine with Bravenly Hydrate and enjoy the benefits of peak hydration!Hydrate with BravenlySupport the showMEN ARE FORGED develops young professional men to pursue God's calling — so they can grow, lead, and maximize influence in the world around them.Send in a question to be answered on the pod!For more on what we do, go to menareforged.com.