112. You Only Know Your Values When You're Willing to Lose Something: With Global Pharma Executive Mwana Lugogo

Tobias Sturesson sits down with Mwana Lugogo – veteran Chief Ethics and Compliance Officer at global pharmaceutical company Takeda – to explore the hidden gap between knowing the right thing to do and actually being able to do it. This first episode of the Responsible Leaders - Healthy Cultures marks a pivotal shift from responsibility and ethics as a compliance exercise to ethics as a leadership practice, grounded in culture, humility, and human behavior. You'll discover the critical difference between training and practice, and learn a practical model for building environments where people can act on their values – even under pressure. Make your commitment to responsible leadership and get equipped to lead with integrity and transform your culture on: ⁠https://www.healthycultures.co/⁠ In this episode, we explore: (00:00) Why good people in organizations make decisions they later regret (02:42) Finding common ground across cultures and regulatory contexts (08:23) Overcoming the health illusion and uncovering organizational blind spots (25:50) Why we treat a behavior problem like a knowledge problem (27:34) Building environments where courage is less necessary (28:23) Shifting from ethics training to intentional leadership practice (30:03) Scaling values through a global ambassador program (35:36) Staying anchored in turbulent times when norms are rewritten (40:37) What you only discover when values become costly (56:09) Moving from "can we?" to "should we?" as laws lag behind technology ‘You Can Culture: Transformative Leadership Habits for a Thriving Workplace, Positive Impact and Lasting Success’ is now available here