Podcast Episode

046 When church trauma (literally) breaks your heart (with Rose Madrid Swetman)

Attaching to God: Neuroscience-informed Spiritual Formation·Geoff and Cyd Holsclaw·22 July 2026·40 min

About this episode

Chronic stress and trauma are not just emotional. They change our bodies. It affects our physical nature, causing illness. And the reverse is true. When physical remedies don’t seem to be available, our relational and spiritual lives just might be the healing we need. Rose Madrid Swetman, pastor, coach, and spiritual director, talks about her experience with a kind of heart failure and the surprising healing that she found for her body, mind, and spirit. Stay connected to The Center for Transformational Engagement.See the Self-Facilitated Retreat Guide to foster Practices of Resilience.Check out "Way of Life" for help making intentional spiritual commitments.Dive deeper in our new book, Landscapes of the Soul: How the Science and Spirituality of Attachment Can Move You into Confident Faith, Courage, and Connection, and learn about our trainings and other resources at embodiedfaith.life.Stay Connected: Check out our Attaching to God 6-Week Learning Cohort.Join the Embodied Faith community to stay connected and get posts, episodes, & resources.Support the podcast with a one-time or regular gift (to keep this ad-free without breaking the Holsclaw's bank).