Ep 25 The Wild Gods Are Knocking

Ellen and Heidi interview Jordana and Julie. Jordana wants to know how to honor her naturally slower pace but also have momentum and grow all her new creative projects. Julie is a university research administrator. While she loves many things about her work, she is tired of working in front of a computer and longs for a more people-facing job. Heidi and Ellen also talk about the series 'Physical' on Apple TV+, as well as the reboot of the TV show 'Mad About You'.