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The next step for VPNs w/ Carl Dong from Obscura

Opt Out·Seth For Privacy·30 March 2025·1h 2m

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The VPN paradigm has grown stale, with simple one-party providers being the best available. But what if we could further minimize trust by shift to a two-party hop system? Obscura is doing just that, and we’re sitting down with their founder Carl Dong to learn all about it. More about Carl Carl’s guest profile – https://optoutpod.com/guests/carl-dong/ More about Obscura Website: https://obscura.net/ Obscura’s Twitter: https://x.com/obscuravpn Technical Blog Post on Obscura: https://obscura.net/blog/bootstrapping-trust/ iCloud Private Relay: https://www.apple.com/icloud/docs/iCloud_Private_Relay_Overview_Dec2021.pdf MASQUE at the IETF: https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/masque/about/ Supporting Opt Out Donations – https://optoutpod.com/donate Leave a review on your favorite podcast platform, if possible! Share it with your friends, family, and other communities! Support the show