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The Testosterone Myth Women Have Been Lied To About │ Dr. Susan Hardwick-Smith

The Dr. Gabrielle Lyon Show··11 September 2026·1h 22m

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You have probably been told that testosterone is a male hormone. Women produce more of it than estrogen, and for many of us it is the first hormone to go, sometimes reading zero five years before menopause while periods are still regular. Dr. Susan Hardwick-Smith and I get into what that costs you in muscle and bone, why there are thirty-one approved testosterone products for men and none for women, and what the number on your own lab report is measuring.Want ad-free episodes? Subscribe to Forever Strong Insider: https://bit.ly/4u5VSReCreate Her: Aging into the Healthiest Version of Yourself by Susan Hardwick-Smith MD https://www.amazon.com/Create-Her-Healthiest-Version-Yourself/dp/1637636644/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&sr=1-3 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon with Amy Pearlman Podcasthttps://bit.ly/3TcVgvBConnect with Dr. Susan Hardwick-SmithWebsite: drsusan.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@drsusanInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/drsusanofficialTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@drsusanofficialFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/drsusanofficial/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drsusanhardwicksmith/Thank you to our sponsors:Timeline - up to 20% off when you subscribe and save at https://bit.ly/4x18cm5BodyHealth - Use the code LYON20 to get 20% off your first order https://bit.ly/4wZgg6NBranch Basics - Get 15% off the Premium Starter Kit at https://bit.ly/4i6iOfK with the code DRLYON. Explore More from Dr. Gabrielle LyonPremium Podcast Subscription: Ad-free episodes, key takeaway summaries, exclusive Q&A, and behind-the-scenes content https://foreverstrong.supercast.comWeekly newsletter: Recipes, podcast updates, and practical weekly insights https://drgabriellelyon.com/sign-up/Apply to become a patient: Personalized care with Dr. Lyon’s clinical team https://drgabriellelyon.com/new-patient-inquiry/ Connect with Dr. Gabrielle Lyon:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drgabriellelyon/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@drgabriellelyonX (Twitter): https://x.com/drgabriellelyonFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/doctorgabriellelyon Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction: testosterone in women03:00 - Eighteen years in OB-GYN and the practice she left04:57 - Thirty years in medicine, zero training on testosterone06:40 - 31 FDA-approved products for men, zero for women07:35 - Why women produce more testosterone than estrogen09:20 - What the ovaries stop making at menopause10:18 - Testosterone reading zero five years early11:41 - Low testosterone symptoms in women13:22 - Intrinsa, the 2004 patch the FDA turned down19:04 - Off-label prescribing and what FDA approval means21:35 - Cognition, breast cancer, muscle and bone25:33 - Osteoarthritis and the anti-inflammatory theory26:31 - Dosing fears: hair loss, acne, voice changes28:16 - Why gels are dosed ten times higher32:14 - The 2019 international consensus34:00 - Dividing a 50 mg tube by ten38:18 - The Baylor study: pellet versus gel at six weeks40:13 - Safety data from fifty years of transgender care45:03 - Eight years of high dosing and what it cost46:16 - Lab reference ranges versus optimal ranges48:28 - ELISA versus LC-MS, and what the study found51:07 - Why free testosterone is calculated, not measured57:58 - Tachyphylaxis and chasing the number1:01:39 - Pellets, BioTE and where the reputation came from1:06:33 - Delivery methods, cypionate and enanthate1:11:47 - Whether anything raises testosterone naturally1:13:03 - DHEA at 100 mg and what it moved1:17:07 - Drugs that lower testosterone in women1:20:55 - Closing thoughts on dosing and accessIf you found this episode valuable, share it with someone who would benefit from it.Disclaimers: This episode includes paid sponsorships.The Dr. Gabrielle Lyon Podcast and YouTube are for general information purposes only and do not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing, or other professional health care services, including the giving of medical advice, and no doctor/patient relationship is formed. The use of information on this podcast, YouTube, or materials linked from this podcast or YouTube is at the user's own risk. The content of this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their health care professional for any such conditions.