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Herman Daly and Kate Raworth on Pandemic-Resistant Economies

Sustain What?··20 July 2026·1h 21m

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In my 400-plus Sustain What conversations, several stand out, includng this intergenerational discussion of economic models that can fit on a finite planet. I invited Herman E. Daly, a founding force behind “steady-state economics,” to examine possible paths to less fragile global systems with Kate Raworth, whose “doughnut economics” model aims to build economic policies and metrics that put thriving ahead of growing. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit revkin.substack.com/subscribe