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The National Maul - Honoring 9/11 & High-Stakes International Rugby

US Rugby Happy Hour··13 September 2026·33 min

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On this edition of US Rugby Happy Hour, hosts Bill Baker and John Fitzpatrick reflect on rugby’s deeply poignant connection to 9/11, honoring heroes like Mark Bingham, Jeremy Glick, and Rick Rescorla. The conversation kicks off with our signature introduction jingle, "Use it or lose it all—time for The National Maul with Martin Pengelly!" setting the stage for a deeply reflective yet expansive conversation on the game's cultural footprint. Martin details his research into historical rugby newsletters and discusses his conversation with World Rugby's Alan Gilpin regarding bringing major international fixtures—including potential Six Nations matches—to North American soil. The panel also weighs in on the logistics of hosting the All Blacks and Springboks in Baltimore, the current health of Major League Rugby, and favorite rugby-themed movies. Tune in for a blend of poignant history, high-level sports administration analysis, and rugby banter. Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction & Weekend Rugby Preview 02:14 - The National Maul Intro Jingle 03:00 - Rugby's Connection to 9/11 & Untold Stories 09:22 - World Rugby's Expansion & Bringing Six Nations to the US 16:35 - High-Stakes Logistics: All Blacks vs. Springboks in Baltimore 19:27 - The State of USA Rugby & Major League Rugby 25:10 - Documentary "Brothers on Three" & Favorite Rugby Movies Links & Resources: Read The National Maul Substack: https://thenationalmaul.substack.com Read Martin Pengelly on The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/profile/martinpengelly Support US Rugby Happy Hour / American Rugby Rising: https://www.americanrugbyrising.com #Rugby #USARugby #RugbyWorldCup #911Remembrance #AllBlacks #Springboks #SixNationRugby #MLR #USRugbyHappyHour Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices