Podcast Episode
231 | when giftedness hides autism: understanding 2e kids with dr. megan helmen

About this episode
about this episode (+ scroll for resources) 👇what does it mean for a child to be twice exceptional, or 2e?in this episode, dr. tay is joined by dr. megan helmen, a pediatric neuropsychologist and founder of Developmental Discoveries, to talk about 2e profiles, giftedness, autism, and why these kids are so often misunderstood.dr. megan explains how giftedness is not just “being smart,” but can involve a different way of thinking, processing, feeling, and moving through the world. when giftedness overlaps with autism, ADHD, learning disabilities, or other developmental differences, children may have areas of incredible strength alongside areas where they need significant support.this conversation explores why 2e autistic children may be missed, how they use strengths to compensate, why school performance does not always tell the full story, and how parents can better understand and support their child’s unique brain.in this episode, you'll hear:what 2e, or twice exceptional, meanshow giftedness and autism can overlapwhy 2e autistic children are often missed or misunderstoodhow high intelligence can mask support needswhy overall IQ scores may not capture the full picturewhat “subtle but significant autism” can look likehow 2e kids may use compensation strategies in social situationswhy hard things may feel easy and “easy” things may feel hardthe importance of including children in the feedback and diagnostic processhow to support 2e kids through strengths, accommodations, interests, and belongingwhy parents of 2e children deserve compassion and grace
timestamps00:00 introduction to 2e and guest background01:47 dr. megan helmen's journey into neuropsychology03:36 the shift towards neurodiversity affirming practices07:12 what is 2e and how does it relate to autism11:52 subtle presentations of autism in gifted children16:09 compensation strategies in 2e autistic kids22:32 IQ and the profile of 2e individuals26:24 differentiating giftedness from autism35:36 supporting 2e children in navigating the world42:36 parenting tips and final thoughtsresources⚡️ Developmental Discoveries — learn more about dr. megan helmen’s neuropsychological assessment practice as well as resources for 2e kids. also follow on Instagram and Facebook⚡️ Autism Traits Guide — a $7 parent-friendly resource that breaks down autism diagnostic criteria, including subtle profiles, and shares examples of how traits can show up across ages, support needs, and presentations⚡️ EVOLVE the membership — includes the “talking to your kid about their diagnosis” masterclass, along with monthly trainings, weekly Q+A episodes, and ongoing support for parents of autistic kids⚡️ explore dr. tay’s clinical services, parent resources, and support at drtaylorday.com⚡️ follow dr. tay on instagram @the.dr.tay for practical autism education and parenting insights