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Surveillance Cameras: The Governor Who Vetoed Them and Got Overruled | Jim Gilmore

The Jenny Beth Show··13 September 2026·45 min

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Jim Gilmore is the 68th Governor of Virginia. Before that he was an elected chief prosecutor, serving six years as a Commonwealth's Attorney, and then Attorney General of Virginia. He went on to chair the Republican National Committee, to chair the National Commission on Homeland Security for five years, and to serve as United States Ambassador to the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. He is a trial lawyer by training and served overseas as a soldier in Germany. Jenny Beth Martin is co-founder of the Tea Party movement and Chairman of Tea Party Patriots Action. She hosts The Jenny Beth Show, which airs Monday through Friday at 1:00 PM ET. Key topics: The red light camera bill he vetoed as governor, and the sentence he put in the veto message The override, and what he says it opened the door to Flock cameras, artificial intelligence, and the police reaching for every technology available The Fourth Amendment question behind constant monitoring, and innocent until proven guilty September 11 as the watershed that made America a security society Why he says you cannot be completely secure and be free at the same time Why he is not worried about socialism as a movement, and why affordability is the frustration socialist candidates are exploiting Monticello, a naturalization ceremony, and the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence Why he calls Europe the pivot of the twenty first century What Ukrainian cabinet ministers told him in 2022, and the book he says everyone should read Timestamps: 00:00 — Cold open: a past governor of Virginia joins the show 00:31 — Entering politics at 17, and what made him a conservative 02:18 — What it means to be a Reagan conservative 03:16 — Flock cameras, artificial intelligence, and the state watching everyone 04:07 — Foreign policy, alliances, and why he rejects the neoconservative approach 05:30 — The three way tug of war between freedom, power, and security 06:40 — The red light camera bill he vetoed as governor 06:49 — How far the country has come since that veto 08:54 — Teaching a post September 11 generation about Marxism and communism 11:01 — History as a powerful teacher: Nazi Germany and Bolshevism 12:07 — Why he is not worried about socialism as a movement 12:40 — Affordability as the frustration socialist candidates are exploiting 13:49 — The lockdowns, fear, and how Americans came back to liberty 14:43 — A medical curfew in Vienna, and a note from the ambassador 15:23 — The National Commission on Homeland Security and weapons of mass destruction 16:18 — The watershed that made America a security society 18:26 — You cannot be completely secure and be free at the same time 18:52 — Saying goodbye at the airport gate, and officials drunk on their power 20:42 — A country of 340 million and the handful the whole system is built around 22:23 — Back to flock cameras: the police reach for every technology 23:30 — The red light law, the veto message, and the override 24:07 — The bill he would file today to ban community camera surveillance 24:20 — Innocent until proven guilty, and the Fourth Amendment 26:06 — The 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence 26:35 — Monticello, a naturalization ceremony, and a very hot day 28:20 — The individual against the power of the state, and China's cameras 29:36 — Why he calls the European war the pivot of the twenty first century 30:25 — Is Europe essential to the safety and security of the United States 35:50 — Isolationists in the conservative movement, and Reagan's alliances 37:19 — Putin's essay, the Tucker Carlson interview, and what he concluded 40:33 — 2014, 2022, and the end of his diplomatic posting 41:21 — A train to Mariupol and what Ukrainian cabinet ministers told him 41:43 — Stalin, the Holodomor, and the book Red Famine 42:29 — Where he says the fighting stands now 43:27 — Drones, exercises with Ukraine, and what America is learning 44:27 — Like, subscribe, and where to find the show Links: jennybethshow.com and teapartypatriots.org