Podcast Episode
Put to Death? What Is Earthly? What Does That Mean?

About this episode
Episode 24 —Put to Death? What Is Earthly? What Does That Mean?What does Paul mean when he tells us to “put to death what is earthly”?After becoming Orthodox, I found that one of the hardest things to communicate to my Protestant friends was the Orthodox understanding of the Fall. It isn't simply a matter of learning a different doctrine. You have to begin imagining the human condition from a different starting point.In this episode, I explore a central question:What if death is not merely the consequence of human sin, but one of the great forces driving human sin?We are mortal creatures. Our bodies are designed to preserve our lives in a world where we die. Hunger, sexuality, fear, the desire for security, the accumulation of resources, and our instinct to protect ourselves are not inherently evil. They are part of embodied human life.But what happens when these legitimate bodily systems become our masters?Paul's language about the mortal body, its desires, the flesh, sin reigning, and obedience gives us a way to understand this. The problem isn't that the body has desires. The problem is when the mind takes those desires and decides that they tell us what we ought to do.And Paul says:“For the mindset of the flesh is death, but the mindset of the Spirit is life and peace.” —Romans 8:6, LEBWe also look at Hebrews' startling claim that Christ came to free humanity from slavery caused by the fear of death, and what this tells us about Satan's role in human depravity.From there, we explore:What Paul means by “what is earthly”The meaning of Paul's language of “members” and the mortal bodyThe relationship between bodily systems and moral deliberationWhy hunger, sexual desire, and the desire for security aren't inherently sinfulBlameless and blameworthy passions in St. Maximus the ConfessorSt. John Chrysostom's understanding of marriage and sexual desireAugustine's different trajectory regarding concupiscence and inherited guiltWhy death → life is such a dominant pattern in Paul's theologyBaptism as participation in Christ's death and ResurrectionWhy Paul repeatedly connects Resurrection with Christian holinessHow monasticism and marriage can both be understood within the horizon of ResurrectionWhy Orthodox fasting, almsgiving, and prayer train us to subordinate bodily desires rather than simply eliminate themThe Didache and its two ways: the way of life and the way of deathWhy Satan's great weapon is not the creation of our natural desires, but the exploitation of our fear of deathWhy Christ being our Life changes the entire moral calculationThe central question of the episode is ultimately very simple:If we have died with Christ and been raised with Him, why would we continue living as though death were our master?The Christian life is not about becoming less human, less embodied, or less alive.It is about learning to live according to a new reality:The appetite is not your lord. Fear is not your lord. Security is not your lord. Survival is not your lord. Death is not your lord. Christ is your Life.And because Christ has risen, we can finally learn how to live rather than merely how to survive.