Podcast Episode
How To Build a Personal Brand That Sets You Apart | Laura Bull

About this episode
There are thousands of people who do what you do, with the same skills and the same promises.Laura Bull, former Sony Music executive and author of From Individual to Empire, joins Deevo Tindall to break down what a personal brand actually is and why it is the thing that separates you when everything else is equal.If you have ever felt like you sound like everyone else in your industry, start here.What we exploreWhy personal branding works differently from product branding, and what that means for foundersFinding the "swoosh" inside a person, and why your red is different from my redShared values as the only real driver of brand loyalty and word of mouthThe trust deficit, AI-written content, and why so much of LinkedIn sounds the sameBrand pillars: the Venn diagram of image, narrative, and product that makes you recognizableMarketing is what you say for 20 days, branding is what you say for 20 years
About Laura BullLaura Bull is the founder and CEO of The Brand Management Co. and the author of From Individual to Empire: A Guide to Building an Authentic and Powerful Brand. She spent ten years at Sony Music Entertainment, where she became one of the company's youngest executives and led marketing and artist development. She holds a BBA from Belmont University's Mike Curb School of Music Business and a master's from SMU, where she also taught as an adjunct at the Temerlin Advertising Institute. Today she helps entrepreneurs, thought leaders, and public figures turn who they are into competitive, sustainable business brands.Guest Links (verified)Website: https://www.thebrandmgmt.comFree brand checklist: https://www.thebrandmgmt.com/brand-checklistBrand Equity Quiz: https://www.thebrandmgmt.com/quizFree chapter and the book: https://www.thebrandmgmt.com/the-bookFrom Individual to Empire on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1632992612LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurabullbranding/Instagram (Laura): https://www.instagram.com/thelaurabull/Instagram (company): https://www.instagram.com/thebrandmgmtco
Resources mentionedFrom Individual to Empire by Laura BullThe Happiness Advantage by Shawn AchorGrit by Angela DuckworthRaving Fans by Ken Blanchard and Sheldon BowlesThe Hour Between Dog and Wolf by John Coates [CONFIRM this is the book Deevo meant]Hemingway Editor
Chapters00:00 Cold open00:28 The thread: why a personal brand separates you00:50 Meet Laura Bull01:19 Personal branding versus product branding03:01 Finding the swoosh inside a person03:50 The perfume analogy04:16 Identity work comes first05:56 Your red is different from my red06:37 Shared values create brand loyalty09:11 Deevo's first pair of Jordans11:44 Branding is about an emotional response12:24 You are not for everybody12:47 What a buyer is really asking13:59 Social proof and followers14:48 Marketing brain and branding brain15:10 Go deep before you go wide16:25 The level playing field17:53 How many touches it takes now19:04 Is know, like, trust dead?20:20 The trust deficit and AI content21:34 Why everyone on LinkedIn sounds the same22:03 Laura's path from Belmont to Sony24:06 Working at Sony while still in school24:32 Leaving Sony: nobody knew marketing from branding25:25 Marketing is 20 days, branding is 20 years26:10 Writing the book at SMU27:32 Would she do it all again?28:27 Social media is marketing, how you show up is brand29:40 The psychology of color30:56 Your zone of genius meets your customer31:42 No response is a response32:08 AI, LinkedIn, and thought leadership33:49 The Venn diagram: image, narrative, product35:08 Brand pillars work as a group37:19 Consistency is key38:15 Brand pillars elevate, content pillars change38:41 Talent is never enough40:32 Superstars who turn down $10 million deals41:48 There is no such thing as an it factor42:38 Skill versus story44:16 The market needs a reason to choose you45:36 Where to start: introspection46:13 Positive psychology and the What's Next sections47:02 "If you think I want a sentence, I want a paragraph"48:07 Your ego brain and your business brain49:58 Identity work and shadow work50:48 Running a SWOT analysis on yourself51:43 From the face of a business to a real business53:15 Get the first product right before you extend53:59 Laura's three brand pillars55:49 Deevo's pillars, and Laura's correction57:17 The hide-the-name test58:12 Where to find Laura58:49 The business case for personal branding1:00:37 Why you, why this, why now1:01:19 Closing thoughts1:01:41 Deevo's close: everyone else is already taken1:03:17 OutroAbout The Branding LaboratoryThe Branding Laboratory is where founders and leaders bring the business, decision, or tension they are actually wrestling with and put it on the table. Deevo Tindall, Founder Business Architect and Strategic Advisor, follows the thread underneath the obvious problem to explore how identity, leadership, operations, positioning, relationships, and strategy shape what happens next.