Podcast Episode

Staying a Team When Kids Come

Focus on the Family Marriage Podcast·Focus on the Family·2 October 2026·12 min

About this episode

Children are a blessing — but they're also one of the biggest disruptors a marriage will face. In this episode of the Focus on the Family Marriage Podcast, host John Fuller sits down with Dr. Greg and Dr. Erin Smalley to discuss how couples can protect their relationship amid the chaos of parenting, navigate disagreements about roles and responsibilities, and stay unified when their parenting styles differ. You'll also hear a candid and humorous conversation Jim Daly had with Pat and Ruth Schwenk, authors of For Better or For Kids, about the unpredictable early years of raising kids — including one unforgettable story involving a yellow umbrella and a Michigan football game — and why fighting for your marriage matters in every season of parenthood For Better or for Kids Focus on Marriage Assessment Loving Your Spouse in the Midst of Parenthood