Podcast Episode
Lead Like a Rebel: Why Great Leaders WANT Their Teams to Push Back with CEO, Jesper With-Fogstrup

About this episode
As a leader, do you feel like it’s your job is to have the answers?
It’s not. It’s to remove the obstacles.
JP and Neil sit down with Jesper With-Fogstrup, CEO of Moneypenny, to talk about what inspirational leadership actually looks like when you strip away the clichés.
Jesper is clear: leadership isn’t about control it’s about unblocking. It’s about creating the conditions where teams can challenge you, disagree with you, and still move fast together.
He says 10% of your team’s job should be disagreeing with you. Jesper also argues that vague objectives kill momentum, and that accountability without trust is just disguised micromanagement.
This is a conversation about clarity, courage, and the discipline of execution.
In this episode:
Why a leader’s real job is to remove friction
How structured disagreement strengthens performance
Why specificity beats vision statements every time
The power of cross-functional alignment
If you’re still trying to inspire people with slogans instead of structure, this one might sting.
Press play. Unblock your team.
Join the rebellion. https://perfectrebel.com/