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Alexandra Hoerr on Scaling Optimum Joy Without Losing Its Culture

The Claim Game··8 September 2026·45 min

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EPISODE SUMMARYIn this episode of The Claim Game, Jeremy Zug sits down with Alexandra Hoerr, founder of Optimum Joy, to discuss building and leading a growing group therapy practice. Alexandra shares how burnout inspired her approach to practice ownership and how Optimum Joy balances growth, accessibility, clinician development, and strong organizational systems.They also explore the challenges of leading a 45-provider practice, making values-driven decisions around insurance, supporting clinician retention, and using AI to improve efficiency without replacing human connection in therapy.KEYWORDSGroup Practice Growth, Private Practice Leadership, Therapy Practice Management, Mental Health Practice, Insurance Billing, Clinician Retention, Therapist Burnout, AI in Therapy, Leadership Development, Practice CultureTAKEAWAYSGrowth Requires Strong Systems: Scaling a group practice requires intentional leadership, clear roles, and repeatable processes.Values Drive Difficult Decisions: Optimum Joy balances access to care with supporting and investing in its clinicians.Development Supports Retention: Mentorship, education, and career growth can help clinicians stay engaged and reduce burnout.AI Is a Tool, Not a Replacement: AI can improve efficiency, but empathy and human connection remain essential to therapy.CHAPTERS00:00 How Burnout Sparked a Thriving Group Practice09:19 The Hard Truth About Practice Leadership17:34 How Core Values Shape Practice Decisions25:21 Scaling with Purpose, Not Just Size34:03 Where AI Belongs in Therapy—and Where It Doesn't42:52 Where to Connect with Alexandra HoerrRESOURCESToday Sponsors: Visit practicesol.com Learn More About Optimum Joy and Resonate Joy Connect with Optimum Joy on Instagram  Learn More About The Claim Game: Visit practicesol.com/podcast The Hourglass Learning Hub: Dive deeper into RCM best practices and downloadable tools mentioned in this episode, like the various checklists and templates, by visiting The Hourglass Learning Hub. Our Blog: Explore years of educational articles on billing and practice management at Practice Solutions Blog. Book: For a comprehensive guide on navigating insurance, grab your copy of Insurance Billing Basics: Steps for Therapists to Successfully Take Insurance.