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Google's DORA Lead on AI : I wouldn't trust AI that much

Bits and Bolts With Paulina··1 August 2026·50 min

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Google's DORA team just found something counterintuitive: 90% of developers now use AI daily, and most feel more productive. But at the team level, deployment instability is increasing.In this episode, Nathen Harvey, Head of DORA at Google Cloud, joins Paulina to unpack why AI amplifies both the best and worst parts of your engineering systems. They cover the hidden "verification tax" of AI-generated code, why only 4% of developers say they trust AI's output "a great deal," the J-curve every team hits before AI adoption actually pays off, and why cutting junior engineers today could mean no senior engineers in ten years.