Circling the Block, Consensual Non-Consent, and New Relationship Energy with Jo Del Carmen

This week on Tongue First, Siren and Wendy welcome back Jo Del Carmen — our very first return guest, and currently the most listened to episode in the show's history. Jo circled the block on their own words to be here, and it turns out we all had more to say. This episode opens with a big one: Wendy is back together with her ex-fiancée Jessica, and she walks through exactly what accountability, boundaries, and giving someone grace after repeated heartbreak actually looks like in real time — including a notebook exercise that might be the most direct thing we've ever put on this podcast. Jo brings their own update — the end of a poly situationship, a recent autism diagnosis, and an honest, detailed conversation about new relationship energy, consensual non-consent, and what it actually means to find a valve release. Siren opens up about the current dynamic between her, Bo, and Squeezy, and what it's like to navigate a new relationship feeling easier than a longer one — and why that isn't necessarily a red flag. They also dig into Jo's four B's — breakups, buddies, and the ongoing question of whether queer women and straight men can really just be friends — plus neurospicy brains, bedroom compatibility, boob chat boundaries, and a never-before-heard excerpt from Jo's upcoming book that had all three of us needing a minute. If you've ever circled back to someone you swore you were done with, needed language for a relationship dynamic you couldn't quite name, or just wanted two hours of your favorite people being brutally honest with each other — this one is for you. Support the chaos and get access to bonus content, behind the scenes moments, and the Tongue First After Hours community over on Patreon. The link is in the show notes. Follow the chaos on TikTok: @Sirenegade_440 @Wendy6181981 New episodes every Monday. Until next time — stay curious, stay queer, and don't forget to lick responsibly.