Podcast Episode
Are Your Kids Being Used as Weapons in Your Divorce?
Not Saving It For Later - Guiding Women Through Divorce & Beyond·Hannah Hembree Bell·9 June 2026·1h 18m

About this episode
Season 2 Episode 5: Are Your Kids Being Used as Weapons in Your Divorce? High Conflict Divorce Explained
What happens when divorce stops being about resolution… and starts becoming about control?
In this episode of Not Saving It For Later, Hannah sits down with psychologist Dr. Mary Alvarez to unpack the painful reality of high conflict divorce and custody cases — and the devastating impact conflict can have on children.
If communication feels impossible… if you feel like you’re constantly walking on eggshells… if co-parenting feels more like surviving than parenting… this conversation is for you.
Dr. Alvarez brings decades of experience working inside high conflict family systems and explains what many parents quietly live through but struggle to put words around.
This conversation covers:
• What actually qualifies as high conflict divorce
• Why conflict is often about power and control—not parenting
• Co-parenting vs. parallel parenting
• How children become emotional weapons in custody battles
• Why tight custody orders matter
• How toxic conflict impacts children’s brains and development
• The emotional toll on the healthier parent
• Self-care, regulation, and surviving without losing yourself
• Whether children eventually “figure it out”
One truth from this episode that hit hard:
"It’s not the divorce that harms children. It’s the ongoing conflict."
If you are navigating divorce or custody conflict, we hope this conversation helps you feel less alone — and more equipped.
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 – Introduction + Why This Conversation Matters
02:15 – Meet Dr. Mary Alvarez + Understanding Her Role
07:40 – What High Conflict Divorce Actually Means
14:10 – Why Progress Can Feel Unsafe During Litigation
20:05 – Co-Parenting vs Parallel Parenting
27:35 – Why Tight Custody Orders Matter
34:50 – How High Conflict Personalities Operate
41:15 – When Children Become Weapons
48:20 – Why Moms Often Feel Pressure to Be “Perfect”
54:10 – Trauma, Emotional Regulation & Self-Care
1:01:30 – Mental Health, Therapy & Divorce Stigma
1:08:45 – Learning Emotional Skills During Divorce
1:14:20 – Choosing Which Hills to Die On
1:20:10 – Do Kids Eventually Figure It Out?
1:27:15 – Healing, Hope & Leaving the Door Open
CONNECT WITH DR. MARY ALVAREZ:
Website: https://drmaryalvarez.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mary-alvarez-ph-d-4028836b/
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