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Scaling Short-Term Rentals in Europe: Regulation, Operations, and Surviving Covid, with Ben Painter

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Scaling short-term rentals in Europe without funding is an operational grind that forces you to learn fast, fix mistakes in real time, and build resilience the hard way. In this episode of Minute by MÎNUT, host Nils Mattisson sits down with Ben Painter (award-winning CEO) to unpack how he grew Dromor from his dining room table in 2017 into a 1,500-unit operation without raising external capital. Along the way, Ben navigated regulation and Covid, built a remote-first team, and learned what it really takes to scale an operationally heavy business in this industry.   They dive into the early “fail upwards” years, why selling is often easier than operations, the brutal reality of retaining properties, and what the next wave of regulation and industry professionalisation means for operators across Europe.   Chapters 01:07 Show intro 01:37 Meet Ben Painter 02:08 Drummer’s story: from 1 listing to 1,500 units 06:49 What founders underestimate about scaling 07:38 Selling vs building: which is harder for founders 09:13 The early mistake: sales first, operations later 12:35 Why Ben hired sales and focused on ops 15:32 Bootstrapping vs raising money: what it changed 17:14 The hardest phase: Covid and the brutal drop 18:55 The pivot: isolation accommodation and rapid recovery 22:17 Resilience, leadership, and getting “beaten up” as a founder 26:03 Where founders get stuck when scaling to 100+ units 27:30 Regulation and barriers to entry in Europe 29:23 Professionalisation: corporates buying up smaller operators 31:28 Why bigger isn’t always better for guest ratings 34:16 What operators still aren’t preparing for 38:17 If Ben started again: what he’d do differently 40:29 The craziest thing that happened while scaling 42:47 Final thoughts and wrap