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“How Art Pugach Turns AI and Co-Pilot into Practical Business Automation”

Automate or Die Trying··10 March 2026·34 min

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Episode Summary: In this episode of Automate or Die Trying, host Wil Ramos sits down with Art Pugach, CTO of Key Associates and Microsoft MVP, recognized for his work with M365 Co-Pilot. Art shares insights from his 27-year career building ERP, CRM, AI, and automation solutions, and discusses how organizations can move beyond hype to apply AI practically. The conversation explores the importance of understanding human workflows before deploying automation, practical examples of AI creating knowledge bases and streamlining order processing, and the role of AI as an assistant rather than a replacement. Art also highlights lessons learned from early ERP implementations, managing AI credit limits, and showing employees how to effectively use AI tools. For business leaders, IT professionals, and tech enthusiasts, Art emphasizes starting with use cases, combining human oversight with AI agents, and leveraging automation to free up resources for higher-value work. Key Takeaways: AI and automation succeed when human workflows are well-defined Co-Pilot and AI agents can dramatically reduce repetitive tasks Knowledge bases and help desk automation save months of work in days Human oversight is critical; AI cannot read minds Understand AI licensing and credit limits to avoid hidden costs Focus on practical use cases to demonstrate value Connect with Art Pugach: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/art-pugach-8144b236 Key Associates: https://www.keyassociates.com Podcast: When in Doubt Reboot – https://whenindoubtreboot.com Listen Now & Subscribe: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, or find us wherever you get your podcasts. Powered by cybersecurityprivacy.com Automate or Die Trying empowers leaders to adopt AI securely, move faster with confidence, and transform the future of work.