Podcast Episode
S3E5: You're Living in 2D with Mark Zan

About this episode
You've been solving the same problem for years in and not gotten anywhere, and you've assumed the answer is to push harder — because on the map you're using, harder is one of only two directions available. My guest today says that map is missing a dimension, and that most of us have flattened our lives to fit it. And he has already proven this to me through his work with me.Welcome back to The Second Voice, where we uncover the conversations leaders don't say out loud. I'm Luisa Hogan, and today I'm joined by Mark Zan — an entrepreneur and intuitive healer whose path has run from underground coal mines to corporate boardrooms to building businesses and helping people reconnect with themselves. He's spent nearly two decades in personal development, meditation, intuition and energy healing. Through his practice, Mark Zan Healing, he brings these two worlds together — business and intuition — exploring how energy, awareness and the beliefs we carry shape the way we lead, the decisions we make, and how we experience both failure and success.Connect with Mark:https://markzan.com/https://www.instagram.com/markzanhealinghttps://www.facebook.com/MarkZanHealingAt The Second Voice, we explore the inner conversations leaders rarely say out loud.If this episode resonated, it is likely because the second voice is active in your leadership too.Hosted by Luisa Hogan, leadership resilience strategist and founder of Vermelho Consulting.Luisa works with founders, executives, and senior leaders who carry real responsibility and want to lead with steadiness, clarity, and self-trust under pressure.Her work focuses on nervous system regulation, leadership identity, and the inner dialogue that shapes how leaders show up when things are hard.Work With LuisaIf this episode sparked reflection, here are ways to go deeper:• Leadership resilience workshops and advisory• Keynotes and curated live experiences• The Steady Leadership framework and private sessions
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