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S3E6: The Third Turn Every Leader Eventually Faces with Mark Vincent

The Second Voice with Luisa Hogan··30 August 2026·36 min

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Most leaders spend decades chasing success without ever asking what happens after they reach it. But eventually, there comes a quieter season where achievement no longer answers the deeper questions , and many leaders realize they’ve built a career without preparing for who they’ll become beyond it. Mark L. Vincent, Ph.D., EPC,  is a pioneer in multiple fields and partners with accomplished Third-Turn leaders committed to developing the current and next generation of effective leadership. He is a strategic advisor in valuation of firms, a certified Executive Process Consultant, and a practitioner-scholar of organizations and leadership.Mark created and shepherds the Sage Group Collective, an "emergency Board meeting" panel for executives and business owners addressing a significant opportunity or challenge.His most recent book is The Maestro Effect: Future Value, Succession, and Legacy in Business.An Executive Advisor, author, Systems Convener, and Succession Process Consultant, Mark loves leaders who love leaders.Connect with Mark: https://www.maestrosuiteadvisors.com/At The Second Voice, we explore the inner conversations leaders rarely say out loud.If this episode resonated, it is likely because the second voice is active in your leadership too.Hosted by Luisa Hogan, leadership resilience strategist and founder of Vermelho Consulting.Luisa works with founders, executives, and senior leaders who carry real responsibility and want to lead with steadiness, clarity, and self-trust under pressure.Her work focuses on nervous system regulation, leadership identity, and the inner dialogue that shapes how leaders show up when things are hard. Work With LuisaIf this episode sparked reflection, here are ways to go deeper:• Leadership resilience workshops and advisory• Keynotes and curated live experiences• The Steady Leadership framework and private sessions Learn more at: vermelho.com.au Stay ConnectedFollow along and join the conversation:• Instagram: @thesecondvoicepodcast• Instagram: @luisahoganhqSubscribe, rate, and review The Second Voice to help more leaders find these conversations.