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FI028 - The Anti-List: The Customers You Must Stop Serving

Founder Independence··5 August 2026·18 min

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In this episode, Bernd Geropp and Brian Creager explore the concept of the anti-list - an essential tool for founders to focus their business, improve margins, and achieve founder independence by systematically rejecting unsuitable customers and projects. Key Topics The concept of the anti-list and its importance How to identify customers and projects to reject The role of margins and focus in business success Strategies for introducing the anti-list to sales teams Handling existing customers that no longer fit the focus The impact of focus on premium positioning and independence Chapters 00:00 Understanding the Anti-List 02:48 Identifying Unsuitable Customers 05:15 The Importance of Margin Over Revenue 07:52 Criteria for a Good Anti-List 11:28 Transitioning Away from Unsuitable Customers 13:52 Implementing the Anti-List for Founder Independence 16:39 First Steps in Creating an Anti-List Links Mentioned in the Show: AI and Leadership Course: https://fipodcast.vip/ai Checklists for Leaders: https://berndgeropp.com/check Leadership Crash Course: https://fipodcast.vip/crashcourse Weekly Actionable Leadership Tips: https://fipodcast.vip/xbzv Credits: Host: Bernd Geropp Moderator: Brian Creager Producer: Brian Creager Editor: Brian Creager Executive Producer: Bernd Geropp To catch the great episodes coming up on Founder Independence, please follow us on Bernd's YouTube channel or your favorite podcast player. And if you enjoyed the show, please leave us a comment or a starred review. It's the best way to help us get these ideas to more people. If you would like new episodes emailed directly to you, subscribe at https://www.berndgeropp.com/subscribe/