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Proficiency, Productive Struggle & Expanding the Horizon with Dr. Brandee Mau

The Multiliterate Mind··11 September 2026·42 min

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Brandee shares nearly 30 years of experience in language education, including work in dual language immersion, German instruction, curriculum development, assessment, professional learning, and proficiency-based teaching. Together, they explore why proficiency can serve as a unifying goal across different language programs and why the intermediate stage of language learning deserves more intentional support. The conversation also dives into: Productive struggle in language learning Why teachers should not do all the work Student curiosity and agency Novice, intermediate, and advanced proficiency Brandee’s Heart, Hoop & Horizon framework The cotton candy metaphor for understanding proficiency AI and the importance of a critical human lens Why mistakes should be celebrated as part of learning How teachers can take small steps toward more student-centered instruction This episode is especially valuable for world language teachers, multilingual learner educators, dual language immersion teachers, instructional coaches, administrators, and anyone interested in proficiency-based learning. Be sure to follow and tag Avant, The Language Proficiency Company on Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn, and YouTube! A PJT Ventures Production