Phil Korbel, Co-Founder of The Carbon Literacy Project

Phil Korbel, Co-Founder of The Carbon Literacy Project, talks to host Tom Clark in the latest episode made by and for climate communicators.  Phil is a global leader in climate education and The Carbon Literacy Project has trained more than 160,000 people in more than 14,000 organisations including BBC, Department for Business Energy and Industrial Strategy, NHS, Patagonia and many more. Phil shares his mission to: Embed climate education as a core workplace competence Use a flexible learning framework to scale training  Tackle confirmation bias and our innate limited psychological bandwidth for disruption Reframe climate action as a way to lower costs, minimise risk, and thrive. If he could get us to do one thing differently as communicators it would be to “drop the polar bears” and focus on personal, local stories that align with people's existing values. Recommended Book: "Don't Even Think About It: Why Our Brains Are Wired to Ignore Climate Change" by George Marshall https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/dont-even-think-about-it-9781632861023/  Follow Phil Korbel at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phil-korbel-2425264/  Additional Notes: Carbon Literacy Project - https://carbonliteracy.com Kris de Meyer -https://www.krisdemeyer.com/  Katherine Hayhoe  - https://katharinehayhoe.com/  Years and Years - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000539g  Under Salt Marsh - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Under_Salt_Marsh Carbon Brief - https://www.carbonbrief.org/  The Sheep Look Up - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sheep_Look_Up  Released: 6 May 2026 Run Time: 48 minutes