13. Don't be a Lady. Be a Legend - Reflections on the…

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Episode Description: Kate and Kelsey reunite for episode 13 of Pleasure Bound, reflecting on how far they've come since starting this journey together. They dive deep into the dance between pleasure and pain — from grief and chronic pain to redefining safety, boundaries, and self-worth. The conversation moves through vulnerability, disability and community, radical self-acceptance, and the courage it takes to share your truth publicly. They also open up about care, autonomy, and what it means to reclaim joy as the engine behind everything they do — before teasing an upcoming episode with musician Freaque (Gabriel Rodreick), creator of their theme song "Drip For Me." A raw, funny, and moving conversation about pleasure as a practice, not a destination. Timestamps 00:00 – Reunion & catching up 00:28 – Reflecting on 13 episodes of growth 01:13 – Awareness + Pleasure practice = Radical Self-love 02:23 – Pain and pleasure as an art process 4:52 – Finding intimacy with pain- the exquisite heartache 5:30 – Redirecting pain into sensation 7:57 – How the podcast has gifted autonomy and freedom 9:23 – Unapologetic truth-telling as "Stevie Nicks energy" 11:32 – Sharing your truth as a spiritual exercise 13:10– Moving through life with Joy & reclaiming peace 15:44 – Why "Pleasure Bound" is the perfect name 17:25 – Kate on trauma, safety, and self-worth 19:51 – Being selective with your energy 21:30 – Sovereignty as a disabled woman 23:20 – Security! Self-Advocacy v Sacrifice in Home Care 24:53 – Being grateful without spiritually bypassing hard truths 26:10 – The realities of being quadriplegic 26:57 – Community with disabled peers (callback to the Jim episode) 28:50 – Radical self-love (Sonya Renee Taylor) 29:20 – "This is a call for love. Are we gonna show up for it?" 32:48 – Kelsey’s Major highlight of the journey 36:37 – Teaser: Freaque (Gabriel Rodrick) joining soon 37:34 – Artistic spaces and creative freedom 38:57 – Letting your freak flag fly 40:12 – Vulnerable caregiver/mirror story 41:53 – Closing reflections and gratitude 42:43 – Sign-off References: Freaque (Gabriel Rodreick) - https://gabrielrodreick.com/freaque A Course in Miracles - https://acim.org/acim/en