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Episode 31 - Credentials Please - Meritocracy or Gatekeeping

Asynchrony Podcast··9 September 2026·1h 14m

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In this episode, Kevin Shively and Dean Bagley explore the complex dynamics of credentialism, elite overproduction, and systemic evolution. They analyze how these factors influence societal structures, political landscapes, and the concept of meritocracy, offering insights into the mechanisms driving societal change.Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the discussion on societal systems 01:52 The role of agreement and divergence in societal beliefs 03:55 Credentialism and the professional managerial class 07:00 Historical roots of credentialing and elite formation 12:00 The influence of Burnham's managerial revolution 19:56 Overproduction of elites and societal destabilization 30:07 Mirror images: Left vs. right perspectives on credentialing 40:00 The systemic nature of credentialing and systemic inversion 50:04 The role of systemic metrics and Goodhart's Law 59:59 The impact of credentialing on professions and public trust 01:09:57 Potential solutions and systemic protections 01:14:59 Conclusion and call for ongoing conversationSupport our work by subscribing to our Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/c/AsynchronyPodcast and get access to detailed analyses for every episode.