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Pochettino: Cavan Sullivan & USA’s Next Wave + What American Soccer Must Change

The Late Run··4 October 2026·36 min

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USMNT head coach Mauricio Pochettino pulls up to The Late Run. The former Argentina international joins Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson and Raheemovic to break down why he committed to the U.S. through 2030, what American soccer needs to change to compete with the world's best, and why he believes young players like Cavan Sullivan, Julian Hall and Neil Pierre are ready for the international stage. Pochettino also looks back on the controversial penalty he gave away against England at the 2002 World Cup, explains why he prefers football without VAR, and opens up about managing some of the biggest personalities in the game, including Lionel Messi, Neymar and Kylian Mbappé. Plus: Ocho weighs in on Neymar's legacy, Poch explains why "one plus one plus one" doesn't always equal three in football, and of course, the GOAT debate... his answer is Messi. CHAPTERS: 0:00 — Cold Open 0:52 — Welcome Mauricio Pochettino 2:04 — Why Poch Is Staying With the USMNT Through 2030 5:36 — What Is American Soccer Missing? 8:48 — The Biggest Challenge With the U.S. Soccer System 10:42 — Real Talk: Life After Playing 15:12 — Preparing Athletes for Life After Sports 16:39 — The 2002 World Cup Penalty vs. England 18:45 — Poch Wants Football Without VAR 21:02 — Neymar's Legacy 25:30 — ChatGPT Work 26:16 — 85 Always Open: Managing Messi, Neymar & Mbappé 28:45 — The Next Generation of USMNT Stars 30:35 — Why Some Young Stars Never Reach Their Potential 32:59 — The GOAT Question 34:18 — What's Next for Pochettino? 36:12 — Outro Start using ChatGPT Work for free at http://chatgpt.com/work Use Code HATRICK30 for 30% off your next door dash order of $25 or more anytime an MLS player scores a hat trick this season! *Terms and Conditions do apply. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices