Podcast Episode
Great Leaders Build People, Not Just Teams with Dr. Michael Fraser, PhD
The Second Shift·Bryan Jepson, MD, CFP® & Aaron Milledge, MBA, CFP® & Doctor Podcast Network·2 August 2026·58 min

About this episode
Useful links:https://www.acep.org/https://www.linkedin.com/in/mfraserdc1/bryanjepson.com2ndshiftpodcast.comWhat separates great leaders from great performers?Most of us spend our careers learning how to become experts. Far fewer learn how to become leaders.In this episode of The Second Shift, I sit down with Dr. Mike Fraser, CEO of the American College of Emergency Physicians (ACEP), to explore one of the most important career transitions professionals ever make: the shift from individual achievement to developing others.Mike shares lessons from leading national physician organizations, building high-performing teams, and helping professionals navigate career transitions. Along the way, we discuss why relationships matter more than résumés, how to create a culture of ownership, why emergency physicians are uniquely suited for second careers, and how our definition of a wealthy life evolves over time.Whether you're leading a team, considering your next career chapter, or simply trying to build a life of greater purpose, this conversation offers practical wisdom that extends far beyond medicine.In this episode:Why great leaders build people—not just teamsThe difference between management and leadershipHow relationships shape career opportunitiesLessons on burnout, career longevity, and second shiftsWhy defining "enough" creates freedomHow legacy ultimately becomes more important than achievement