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Beyond Clinical Medicine: Finding What Comes Next with Morgan Leafe, MD and Mandy Armitage, MD

The Second Shift·Bryan Jepson, MD, CFP­­® & Aaron Milledge, MBA, CFP® & Doctor Podcast Network·28 August 2026·1h 4m

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Learn more at: www.nonclinicalphysiciansnetwork.comSign up for their annual conference: https://www.nonclinicalphysiciansnetwork.com/physician-career-transition-conferenceDownload the Second Shift Blueprint: 2ndshiftpodcast.comFind more physician finance content at bryanjepson.comWhat happens when the career you worked so hard to build no longer fits the life you want?Drs. Morgan Leafe and Mandy Armitage, co-founders of the Non-Clinical Physicians Network, join me to talk about their own journeys from clinical medicine into careers that ultimately included medical writing, entrepreneurship, career education, and consulting.We explore why physicians often struggle to give themselves permission to consider another path, the value of career coaching and community, and why the best time to explore your options may be before you actually need them. Morgan and Mandy also share some of the opportunities available to physicians outside traditional practice, including medical writing, pharma, utilization management, informatics, health tech, and the rapidly evolving world of AI.We also discuss the financial side of career transition, why replacing your clinical salary isn't always the right benchmark, and how financial independence can give you the freedom to choose work based on meaning and fit rather than income alone.Finally, Morgan and Mandy share resources available through the Non-Clinical Physicians Network and their upcoming in-person conference for physicians exploring careers beyond clinical medicine.Whether you're burned out, approaching retirement, or simply curious about what else might be possible, this conversation is a reminder that becoming a physician doesn't mean you have to do the same thing forever.