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EP009: The Next Manhattan Project

AI, Honestly··16 July 2026·24 min

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EP009 traces the AI family tree from OpenAI's founding through Anthropic's split — and examines what happened when the company that calls itself the safe one distributed its most powerful model to 200 organizations across 15 countries, gave access to a company with Chinese ties without adequate government vetting, and refused to fix a security vulnerability when the US government called. Featuring the Anthropic constitution's priority hierarchy, Dario Amodei's 25% catastrophe estimate, the Fable 5 shutdown timeline, and the All-In podcast's dissection of what went wrong — including Chamath feeding Dario's own essays into Claude for a psychological analysis of its creator.