Podcast Episode
Stephanie Jones on the Self-Care Trap: It’s Not You, It’s the System Making You Sick

About this episode
One of Stephanie's first clients was a fifteen year old who had just picked up a stack of legal charges. It was her first week out of grad school, and nobody had finished training her. She figured it out, but there were consequences.Twenty years later she is a licensed clinical social worker and a clinical consultant, and when people ask her who her client is, her answer is unexpected: her client isn't a person, it's a system.Which sounds abstract right up until someone hands you a bubble bath and calls it a solution to what is happening day after day, month after month.We talk about what happens when a group practice scales and starts to feel like profit first instead of team, why an outside consultant gets heard saying the same things staff have been saying for years, what a trauma-informed workplace looks like in actual policy rather than in a values statement, and the thing Stephanie calls a trap that almost every exhausted professional has been told will help.
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00:00 Meet Stephanie Jones, Licensed Clinical Social Worker and Clinical Consultant
01:34 She Thought She Would Be a Lawyer: How She Found Social Work Instead
02:44 First Job Out of Undergrad: Inside a Residential Group Home for At-Risk Youth
05:23 The Supervisor Who Changed Everything and the Gift of Being Told You Are Doing Fine
06:33 What High Acuity Means, and Why New Social Workers Get the Hardest Cases
09:05 Why an Outside Consultant Gets Heard When the Staff Never Did
11:36 When a Group Practice Scales: How Profit First Replaces Team
13:57 My Client Isn't a Person, It's a System
17:12 Trauma-Informed Workplace Design
18:30 Secondary Trauma, Transparency, and Water Cooler Anxiety
21:11 Layoffs, Moral Injury, and Why Baseline Anxiety Is Everywhere Now
24:06 Maslow at Work: Why Collaboration Is What Makes People Stay
28:06 How Practice Owners Rebuild the Hierarchy They Left
31:23 Staying in Your Values and Still Making Money
37:54 The Self-Care Trap: What New Social Workers Are Never Told
About StephanieStephanie Jones is a licensed clinical social worker and clinical consultant with more than 20 years of micro and macro social work experience, helping agencies and group practices build trauma-informed workplaces.
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Victoria Steward is a Corporate Exit and Financial Empowerment Coach, helping senior corporate women stuck in the "one-more-year" loop, build the self-trust and financial clarity to leave corporate on their own terms, their own timing, their own scenic route.
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