Podcast Episode
Hire the Second Version, Not the First [72]
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About this episode
Why the best interview signal is what a candidate does with your feedback
Nate rebuilt his interview loop so candidates present a case study twice — once as a coached dry run, once for the panel — and the score is the difference between the two. Ava pushes back on the risk of rewarding mimicry, and they land on a two-question scorecard.
What Nate and Ava discuss
Building a coached dry run into the loop and judging version two, not version one
Why the hiring manager should read CVs and run a 60–90 minute first conversation
Ava's pushback: does coaching reward mimicry over independent judgment?
The move
On your next opening, split the case study into two sittings — a coached dry run with one person, then the panel a week later. Score two things: what actually changed, and whether they made the change their own.
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