Podcast Episode
The Glorious 2030s

About this episode
Interview with Eli Godde & Gaëlle Shearn
Eli Godde and Gaëlle Shearn facilitate The Glorious 2030s, a French-born conversational workshop that drops participants into a utopian future through guided meditation, three personal questions on a pocket-sized blue card, and oracle cards featuring real initiatives already underway today. The reframe: utopia is not a destination but a muscle, and training it with strangers in a room for three hours produces much more agency than years of reading about what is going wrong.
Todays guests and The Glorious 2030s
Eli Godde: https://de.linkedin.com/in/elisabeth-godde-b61698207/de
Gaëlle Shearn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gaelle-shearn/
Website: https://www.2030glorieuses.org/
Gaëlle and Eli's workshops: https://linktr.ee/utopiamuscletraining
Julien Vidal (creator): https://www.linkedin.com/in/vidal-julien/
Experiences and organizations mentioned
Seeding for Future: https://seedingforfuture.wixsite.com/accueil
Wings of the Ocean: https://www.wingsoftheocean.com
Reclaim: Ecofeminist Alliance (Berlin): https://www.reclaim-ev.org/
Seksismo Fresko (Sexism Fresco): https://www.fresque-du-sexisme.org/en
Diversity Fresco: https://fresquedeladiversite.org/en/
Berliner Nuss from GoNuts GmbH: https://www.berliner-nuss.de/
Article "It's True—You Really Should Talk to Your Plants": https://www.thespruce.com/should-you-talk-to-your-plants-3972298?utm_source=perplexity
Selected academic resources on utopia
Muñoz, J. E. (2009). Cruising Utopia: The Then and There of Queer Futurity. NYU Press: https://www.vfw.or.at/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Munoz_CruisingUtopia_Introch1.pdf
Eskelinen, T. (Ed.). (2020). The Revival of Political Imagination: Utopias as Methodology. Zed Books: https://doi.org/10.5040/9781350225633
Cooper, D. (2014). Everyday Utopias: The Conceptual Life of Promising Spaces. Duke University Press: https://www.dukeupress.edu/Everyday-Utopias
About Julian and the Serious Games Podcast
Music by Podington Bear: soundofpicture.com
Julian Kea on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kilearning/
Serious Games for Serious Change Community in Berlin: https://luma.com/SG4SC
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