Podcast Episode
The Only Truly Passive Real Estate Asset: Triple Net (NNN) Leases

About this episode
You know recurring revenue. You've sold it, pitched it, and fought for it every quarter. But what if you could own it? Triple Net Leases — known in the industry as NNN properties — are the commercial real estate equivalent of a contract that auto-renews, where the tenant handles the overhead and you collect the margin. No midnight maintenance calls. No chasing down repairs. Just predictable, long-term cash flow backed by national tenants with serious balance sheets.In this episode of The Capital Shift, NNN specialist Tom Rauen breaks down an asset class that most high earners have never considered — not because it's too complicated, but because nobody ever explained it in plain language. If you've been stacking W-2 income and wondering how to make it work harder without adding another job to your plate, this conversation is for you. In this episode:What a Triple Net Lease actually is — in plain English
Why the tenant pays taxes, insurance, and maintenance (and why they're okay with that)
How to evaluate a deal like an investor, not a landlord
The tenant creditworthiness question that separates good deals from great ones
What high-income earners get wrong when they first enter this space
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which is the overarching premise of the
capital shift program, Tom Rowan, which
is this notion of as you are more
successful over the course of your
career, you have more resources than you
may have had when you first started. And
so consequently as your resources grow
and improve your thinking has to change
from being a capital accumulator to
being a capital deployer. As you are
going through that metamorphosis, you
actually are going through a bit of an
identity change in the process. So hence
the name the capital shift program. So
welcome Tom. Happy to have you.
>> Yes, glad to be here. So you want to
tell all the stewards out there a little
bit about Tom and your background and
how we found ourselves on this happy
program today?
>> Yeah, for sure. So I found it 1800
t-shirts 20 years ago right out of
college. And so that's been my primary
job as a a small business owner, as an
entrepreneur, uh growing that business
now to 40 employees and you know pretty
pretty full staff. And during that
process, as we were continuing to build
the business, we were running into a lot
of problems entrepreneurs have is um we
were making great money, but the tax man
would come knocking out the door. So, I
knew, you know, a lot of very wealthy
people use real estate as a vehicle to
create passive income. And the other
part was like as a business owner,
entrepreneur, like I wasn't sure what
retirement looked like, whether that was
an age or money amount or something. And
I wanted to have that diversification on
hand to you know kind of have a back
stop I I guess you could say but then
also to you know be earning some passive
income um you know besides that and
building some wealth in the background.
So we started investing in commercial
real estate primarily triple net lease
focused and so that is big names uh so
our tenants are like Starbucks and
Arby's and Applebee's and national
franchises with 10 to 25 year leases and
the reason we focus on that asset class
is because as like a full-time business
owner you know no different than someone
else that has a full-time job um I
didn't have the time uh to dedicate to
dealing with tenants and toilets and all
this other stuff. And I'm not like a
handy dude. So, I can't I'm I can fix
maybe a few things, but I'm not really.
So, I didn't want to like be fixing
stuff and having to like, you know, deal
with like I don't even like to fix stuff
around our own house, let alone somebody
else messing it up, right? So that's how
we found this asset class and it's
absolutely phenomenal asset class
because I truly believe it's the only
passive asset class that's out there.
The rest of them are actually a lot more
work. Um this is the only true one that
you can set it and forget it and you
know there's there's not all these other
things going on. So that's that's why we
love this asset class. It worked out
really well because we could build our
lifestyle around it, whether that's with
work or with family or traveling and
everything else. And as we look towards
the future of, you know, retirement and
things like that, this asset class still
offers all that freedom and flexibility.
>> Well, and unlike some of the other
operators and the other classes that
we've interviewed as a part of the
program, there's weights and balances.
you know, we're we're teaching the that
are consuming this product how to learn
the four different sort of measures that
someone who's making a real estate
investment is generally seeking. And you
know, the fun part, Tom, like in many
ways, you just described most of the
people who are going to be watching the
program because they don't have time for
another job, just like you didn't have
time for another job. They're already
doing a lot of work for the thing that
makes them the significant amount of
money that their jobs afford them. And
the idea of taking on a complete other
set of tasks seems like the worst
possible idea in the world of everything
to most of these people because they're
putting their heart and souls into what
they're doing, you know, in solving
problems for their clients. So the idea
of then having to take on this added
responsibility is just like okay so
you've clearly most likely gotten these
people's attention around like yeah that
sounds exactly right. So break it down a
little bit more about why you believe it
is truly passive like and and when we
say triple net like there may be people
who doesn't even know what the heck
we're talking about right so let's
unpack it a bit for folks who maybe are
a little uninitiated.
>> Yeah this this got me super excited when
you sent me this. So tax efficiency,
equity leverage, cash flow creation,
capital velocity.
>> Yes.
>> Now there's some other asset class where
you might get one or two of those,
>> right?
>> I'll tell you what, I don't know the
scoring system. Uh looks like a one,
two, or three.
>> Yeah,
>> we're scoring like fives on all those,
maybe even higher. Like off the charts.
Uh
>> all right. talk to the people like what
what what makes this so unique that the
scores would be so
>> here's here's the unique part and I
don't like I I kind of like to keep this
hush hush because um but I'm going to
let you guys in on a little secret. This
is truly the best asset class. And the
reason it's I call it a secret is
because most people don't realize you
can actually own these properties. You
will never see a for sale sign in front
of Starbucks or in front of McDonald's.
Right? you're driving down the street,
think of when you go to get coffee in
the morning or any of the hightra areas
in your city, you never see them for
sale. So, that's why they're actually
they're easy to get but hard to find
because people don't know some of the
inside tricks on getting these
offmarket. They're not listed with, you
know, traditional realtors and stuff
like that. And typically these are owned
by big private equity or big hedge funds
and stuff like that. But they're also
owned by investors just like you and me.
So what these properties look like when
I say passive and completely hands...