Let's Talk Permission to Take Space as Leaders | Rob Ocel | 006

In this episode of Peer Ripples, Noa and Ofir are joined by Rob Ocel, VP of Innovation at This Dot Labs and host of the Engineering Leadership Podcast. The conversation delves into the concept of leaders taking space and the challenges associated with it. It explores the balance between leadership and team ownership, as well as the role of a leader in creating space for themselves and their team. Key takeaways include the importance of permission and duty, the freedom that comes from clear rules of the game, and the concept of owning the middle as a leader. Takeaways Permission and responsibility go hand in hand as a leader Leaders create space by building systems rather than controlling every decision. Trust grows when expectations are clear. Owning the middle is a critical leadership skill. Clear rules of the game create freedom, not restriction. Chapters 00:00 Permission to Take Space 10:00 Leadership, Freedom, and Boundaries 18:00 Owning the Middle 30:00 Rules of the Game 35:30 Reflection and Takeaways More About Us: Connect with Ofir & Noa https://www.linkedin.com/in/noarcoach/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/ofirronen/ Connect with Rob Ocel https://www.linkedin.com/in/robocel/ Our Website https://advago.co/ Podcast YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@PeerRipplePodcast Noa Ronen YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@NoaRCoach