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Assurance Unknown with Kai-Fan Chang and Ernst Bovelander

Assurance Unknown··29 May 2026·1h 43m

About this episode

Welcome to the second episode of Assurance Unknown. My guest for this episode is Ernst Bovelander. Ernst was the CEO of Brightsight for many years and played quite an important role for both Brightsight and for my career. In the interview we went into his career from his first job at the hardware security group of TNO, which became Brightsight. And his return to Brightsight to take over one of the previous owners Jan Pieters as the CEO. He had two tasks, one is to make Brightsight more "professional", the other is to prepare the company for a sale. We can hear the whole process from his point of view, which if we purely look at the two tasks, he had quite good results. We also went into the process of the growth and expansion of Brightsight. Overall a very interesting story of the history of Brightsight and high assurance payment security. When Ernst was talking about making Brightsight more "professional", I was already thinking what does "more professional" actually mean? I wrote a blog post about it as the complimentary content and I welcome you all to share your views and comments on that. You can find the blogpost here: https://certcle.substack.com/p/what-is-a-professional-lab Hope you enjoy this episode. I am keeping a monthly update cycle at this moment so the episodes are still in the long format. Feel free to leave your comments and join the conversation. Do not forget to subscribe and like the video if you do! Thanks!