John Vervaeke and Zachary Stein: The war in heaven, the kitchen table, and thoughts of the heart

John Vervaeke is a professor at the University of Toronto and the creator of the popular online YouTube Series ‘Awakening from The Meaning Crisis’, which is a rich feast of cognitive science, philosophy, religion, and the history of ideas.  What makes Vervaeke special in my opinion is the breadth of his work, but his courage descend the ivory tower and talk to people ‘on the street’—and to exemplify his ideas.  His hero is Socrates, and he embodies the living dialogue and courage that Socrates represents. Zak Stein is philosopher of education working at the interface of psychology, metaphysics, and politics. He has published two books, including Education in Time Between Worlds, along with dozens of articles. This writing was done as he worked co-founding a non-profit and think tank, as well as teaching graduate students at Harvard, and consulting with technology start-ups. Zak is a long time meditator, musician and caregiver, which has shaped him more than any professional engagements.  (Source: https://www.systems-souls-society.com) In our wide ranging conversation we discussed: The end of the world The thoughts of the heart The post tragic The untapped Fate and fatal - how reality goes beyond our egocentric concerns Absurdity and horror The great un patterning Sacred Kairos Fragmentation and wholeness Imaginal and imagination Neo perennialism Dialogue between traditions Ecology of practice The virtual campfire Kairos Ecstatic ordeal John Vervaek’s Awakening from the Meaning Crisis  Zachary Stein: Covid 19: A war in heaven DONATE ON PAYPAL Patreon Medium Rebel Wisdom Articles Twitter Facebook Intro music: Beautiful Machines, by Andrew Sweeny Sponsorships: off for this episode