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How to Collect Data Without Stopping Therapy

SLP Coffee Talk··12 September 2026·37 min

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Feeling like data collection is eating up all your therapy time? In this episode, Hallie sits down with Michele Rothstein of SLP Madness, a 26-year elementary school-based SLP, to talk all about how to make data collection clean, efficient, and legally defensible. Michele shares her 3:1 treatment-to-probe ratio, how she handles Medicaid billing without sacrificing real therapy time, and why she believes data is her favorite four-letter word. Bullet Points to Discuss: The difference between therapy charting and true data collection Why testing your students every session isn't the same as teaching them Using a 3:1 ratio: three weeks of treatment, one week of progress monitoring How to report Medicaid billing data on non-probe weeks Building and organizing probes so they're ready for IEP season Handling inherited IEP goals you don't agree with or understand  Here’s what we learned: Data collection and therapy charting are not the same thing Consistent stimuli each time you probe is what makes data legally defensible An IEP is a blueprint, not a complete list of everything you're targeting Honesty about inherited goals builds trust with families and teams Starting small with one student or goal is the key to sticking with a new system Learn more about Michele Rothstein: Website: https://www.slpmadness.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/slp.madness/ LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/michele-rothstein-slpmadness Teachers Pay Teachers: https://www.teacherspayteachers.com/store/slp-madness How to Collect Data Without Stopping Therapy Learn more about Hallie Sherman and SLP Elevate:  📝 Website: https://speechtimefun.com/🎲✨ Check out the Secondary Secret Podcast here! https://www.speechtimefunpd.com/secret-podcast-signup📘✨ Grab your copy of The Secondary SLP Roadmap here! https://www.speechtimefunpd.com/stf-book 🎤✨ The Speech Retreat is Back! Learn more and register here!https://www.speechretreat.com ​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​  Freebie:https://www.slpmadness.com/shop/p/freespeechtherapydescribingprobehttps://www.slpmadness.com/iep-goal-bank  Subscribe today and get access to my secret podcast filled with my juicy secrets for planning with ease for secondary speech students. 6 quick episodes that you can quickly listen to and feel refreshed and inspired! https://speechtimefun.com/secondarysecrets