Podcast Episode
What Marketers Get Wrong About AI Search with Andy Crestodina
The Agents of Change Digital Marketing Podcast·Rich Brooks | Interviews with Marketing Experts | SEO | Social Media Market·11 September 2026·36 min

About this episode
Every few months a new acronym shows up promising to replace the last one, and this year it's GEO. I brought Andy Crestodina from Orbit Media back on the show to settle a debate I keep having in my own head: is generative engine optimization its own discipline, or just SEO wearing a trench coat and hoping nobody looks too closely? Andy has spent twenty five years building websites that turn into lead generation machines for B2B companies, and he came in with a much sharper answer than "it depends," even though he says that phrase more than either of us would like to admit. If you run marketing for a small or mid sized business and you're wondering whether AI search means starting over from scratch, this conversation will save you a lot of wasted effort chasing the wrong checklist. https://www.theagentsofchange.com/637 Need help with your branding, website, or digital marketing? Reach out to me (Rich Brooks!) today at https://www.takeflyte.com/contact Check out Andy's first appearance and the introduction by my daughter Maya: https://www.themarketingagents.com/andy-crestodina-neuromarketing