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The Secret Your Body Has Been Keeping: Hongchi Xiao on Self-Healing

Younger Than Yesterday··14 October 2026·1h 7m

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In this episode of Younger Than Yesterday, Ian Clark sits down with Hongchi Xiao, the man who first introduced Ian to Paida Lajin, to self-healing, and to the connections between the physical and metaphysical in the body. Ian discovered Hongchi's work nine years ago in an interview, and it shaped much of what Ian practices and teaches today. This is their first conversation face to face, and this is Hongchi's story in his own words.Hongchi grew up in China and taught English in a remote village school. He worked as a government interpreter in Tibet, then went to business school in Arizona. His finance career took him from the World Trade Center to Hong Kong. Then, at 40, he walked away from it all to search for ways of healing that had nothing to do with medication.That search took him across western China, to Kung Fu masters, Taoist monks, a fisherman healer in an isolated mountain village, and an old nun with an unforgettable story. Along the way he came to the idea at the heart of his life's work: the most powerful healing isn't something done to you, it's something you learn to do yourself.Then the conversation goes deeper. Hongchi and Ian talk about how the body and spirit are connected, about pain as a teacher, and about courage and responsibility. Hongchi explains why he believes healing the body is really a doorway to healing the mind.In this episode, you'll discover:Hongchi's path from investment banking to a lifelong search for self-healingThe chance meetings in China's mountains and monasteries that shaped Paida LajinWhy Hongchi chose to stop being a "healer" and became a teacher insteadHow Hongchi's work first reached Ian, and what it has meant to himWhy Hongchi calls pain "one of the most beautiful gifts"The connection between body, breath and spirit, and the Taoist idea of "no destruction, no construction"Hongchi's upcoming book, The Winds of Liberation Connect with Ian Clark Website: activationproducts.com Instagram: @ianclarkactivated YouTube: @IanClarkActivated Join the Living Activated community on Skool: skool.com/living-activated-w-ian-clark-3057Disclaimer This podcast is for educational and informational purposes only. The views expressed by guests are their own. Nothing in this episode is medical advice or meant to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional before changing your health routine or any prescribed treatment.